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Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)
by defender of truth inthis quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .
" a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.
"http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.
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https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-change-the-law-to-better-protect-vulnerable-children-like-daniel-pelka-danielslaw -
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Jehovah cult kicked me out - but not the man who raped me,' victim claims
by defender of truth inpositions of trusta jehovahs witness spokesman said: we have tried to educate families to try and educate and protect their children, so that children can protect themselves if they find themselves in a situation.if jehovahs were found to have abused someone if they are in a position of trust they would no longer have a position of trust.asked why about the claims sewell had not been kicked out of the jehovahs the spokesman insisted we cant comment on specific situations.we dont give out personal information, he said.http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovah-cult-kicked-out---8891636
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Sewell not 'defellowshipped'
The 39-year-old alleges Sewell still has not been “disfellowshipped” despite being jailed for 14 years last year. A Jehovah’s spokesman refused to deny this.
“Even if an abuser admits it, as long as they repent, they might not get any discipline at all,” Karen said.
“If they say, ‘I’m sorry, I won’t do it again’ they are left alone and the congregation is never told.”
Guilty of eight sex offences
Sewell was found guilty of eight sex offences including a rape that left his adult victim pregnant and the sex abuse of a 12-year-old girl.
“In some cases an abuser might be disfellowshiped for three years but then brought back,” Karen said.
“But no-one is told why he was disfellowshipped.”
Church elder Mark Sewell, 53, was jailed for 14 years at Merthyr Crown Court for sexually abusing women worshippersSewell was once kicked out for drunkenness and a bad attitude. He was then welcomed back.
“Even though he has been found guilty of sex abuse he has still not been disfellowshipped,” Karen said.
“He is still a witness. I know he’s been writing to Jehovah’s Witnesses because I have been told.”
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“I have asked why he has not been disfellowshipped and they have not been able to give me an answer,” Karen, who was a member of the Barry congregation, said.
'It's a cult'
“The only answer I have had is ‘These things take time.’”
Karen was disfellowshipped as a teen because her boyfriend was not a Witness.
“I never went back and I am still disfellowshipped,” she said.
If she is in the street she is ignored by Witnesses.
“They won’t talk to me,” Karen said.
“But they are allowed to talk to him.
“That’s how stupid that rule is.”
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Karen said she asked the Barry Elders for a letter of apology for not believing her about Sewell. She has not had one.
Legal action
Karen and another Jehovah’s sex attack victim are attempting to sue the institution for what happened. The religion has already paid out millions of dollars in the US after being swamped in scandals.
“All I ever wanted them to do was say sorry,” Karen said.
“Why don’t they just apologise? They are supposed to believe in the bible.”
When articles about her were shared on the internet she was dubbed “an apostate.”
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovah-cult-kicked-out---8891636
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Jehovah cult kicked me out - but not the man who raped me,' victim claims
by defender of truth inpositions of trusta jehovahs witness spokesman said: we have tried to educate families to try and educate and protect their children, so that children can protect themselves if they find themselves in a situation.if jehovahs were found to have abused someone if they are in a position of trust they would no longer have a position of trust.asked why about the claims sewell had not been kicked out of the jehovahs the spokesman insisted we cant comment on specific situations.we dont give out personal information, he said.http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovah-cult-kicked-out---8891636
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defender of truth
In case anyone doesn't know, Karen Morgan wrote this article about the landmark court case in the UK. Here's a relevant quote from it..
"There are so many similarities between this case and the case I am involved in.
I actually requested an apology from my local body of elders and didn’t even get a response.
I just wanted them to say sorry for sitting me in front of my abuser and making me say what he had done to me.
I then tried to get an apology from London Bethel instead, and I was flatly told that Bethel doesn’t apologise!
I find this quite bizarre since Jehovah’s Witnesses are encouraged to say sorry and repent when they make mistakes.
If I had received an apology and assurance that steps would be taken to ensure children would be more protected in future, I too would never have considered taking legal action."
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Jehovah cult kicked me out - but not the man who raped me,' victim claims
by defender of truth inpositions of trusta jehovahs witness spokesman said: we have tried to educate families to try and educate and protect their children, so that children can protect themselves if they find themselves in a situation.if jehovahs were found to have abused someone if they are in a position of trust they would no longer have a position of trust.asked why about the claims sewell had not been kicked out of the jehovahs the spokesman insisted we cant comment on specific situations.we dont give out personal information, he said.http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovah-cult-kicked-out---8891636
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Positions of trust
A Jehovah’s Witness spokesman said: “We have tried to educate families to try and educate and protect their children, so that children can protect themselves if they find themselves in a situation.”
If Jehovah’s were found to have abused someone “if they are in a position of trust they would no longer have a position of trust.”
Asked why about the claims Sewell had not been kicked out of the Jehovah’s the spokesman insisted “we can’t comment on specific situations.”
“We don’t give out personal information,” he said.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovah-cult-kicked-out---8891636 -
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Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)
by defender of truth inthis quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .
" a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.
"http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.
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I'll be away for a while now, so can I ask a favour?
If you decide to sign a petition, could you please perhaps post a comment, however brief, then maybe the link to the petition that you signed?
If we do that at least once per page, it will raise awareness of the petitions, as well as making it easy for others to click on. Just a suggestion. Thankyou for supporting this
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Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)
by defender of truth inthis quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .
" a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.
"http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.
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defender of truth
Thanks Flipper.
Remember that there are 2 links to petitions in the Opening Post. They are all for mandatory reporting, here they are again..
And the 3rd petition again:https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-change-the-law-to-better-protect-vulnerable-children-like-daniel-pelka-danielslaw -
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WT loses appeal in UK!!!!!!!
by Viva la Vida inthe wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.
here is the ruling:.
http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.
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defender of truth
Joe Grundy's hard work payed off. Excellent idea :)
Here is a quote from part of the article in Private Eye:
"As well as investigating the Jehovah’s Witnesses over safeguarding and their advice to individual congregation charities, the Charity Commission was seeking to probe the organisation’s administration, governance and management in a move which could see the congregation lose its charitable status.
The commission also served WBTSB with a production order seeking disclosure of all documents recording allegations of abuse, and advice and guidance given in response, as well as minutes of meetings associated with child safeguarding..."
Read the rest here:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/167980001/jw-child-abuse-makes-private-eye#/173450004
(just thought I'd link the two threads)
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JW Child Abuse Makes 'Private Eye'
by Joe Grundy infollowing on from the recent thread about wt losing an appeal concerning the uk charity commission (sorry, i can't do the link) i'm pleased to report that this matter is covered in the latest 'private eye' (20 march - 2 april issue).. it's a one-third page article (p.34) under the heading 'child abuse' and the headline 'silent witnesses'.
it reports the case accurately, mentions several criminal cases and the ongoing high court compensation case.
it includes some of judge mckenna's comments..
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Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)
by defender of truth inthis quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .
" a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.
"http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.
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defender of truth
Sign this petition for mandatory reporting as well:
"192,479 supporters
7,521 needed to reach 200,000"
https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-change-the-law-to-better-protect-vulnerable-children-like-daniel-pelka-danielslaw -
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Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)
by defender of truth inthis quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .
" a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.
"http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.
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Church elder Mark Sewell, 53, was jailed for 14 years at Merthyr Crown Court for sexually abusing women worshippers